May 22, 2005

Class in America, Take II

Today's segment from the NYT series on Class Matters in America describes the economic improvement among Evangelical Christians. Specifically, it talks about the desire among many Evangelical groups to gain influence on Ivy League campuses, which are seen as the training grounds for the leaders of tomorrow. Ironically, it focuses largely on attempts to proselytize the Brown community, which I always thought of as the most liberal Ivy league campus. The article even acknowledges that Brown recognizes "heathen/pagan" as a legitimate religion. Perhaps this explains their efforts best. The leader of the Brown Campus Crusade Geoff Freeman remarked:

"It is easy to sell New England in the Midwest," as Mr. Freeman put it later. Midwesterners, he said, see New Englanders as "a bunch of heathens."

Is the North East this century's Africa? Frankly, I enjoy living in my little godless corner of the world. I think stem cells, gay marriage, and abortion are all swell. I would rather play pong than "regroup in the living room for board games and goofy improvisation contests, all free of profanity and even double entendre." The Midwest can keep its missionaries. It's taken centuries of history and struggle to make the North East the center of liberal thinking in our country. I'm very skeptical that the proliferation of these Evangelical Christian Centers on Ivy League campuses will be anything more than a joke for us smarty-pants liberals. Sorry Jesus freaks, but if you think the North East is going red anytime soon you're in for a rude awakening.


  1. Anonymous10:28 AM

    Yeah, fuck all other regions of the country besides the northeast. Shove jesus up your ass.

  2. This is a sorry comment on the state of science education at Princeton:

    "Mr. McPhillips, who shares Mr. Bennett's belief in the potential of faith healing, remarked that he had once cured an employee's migraine headaches just by praying for him. "We joke in my office that we don't need health insurance," he told Mr. Bennett before writing a check for $1,000."

  3. Anonymous9:14 PM

    Keep up the condescension, guys, it's a great way to continue to lose national elections.

  4. Not everyone who is religious holds to the views of all Christian organizations. I posted a long time back about the importance of not putting all people of faith in the same box and dismissing them.

    If you still haven't checked out you should.

  5. Anonymous12:04 AM

    I got Kate's back on this one, a group of concerned professors at Calvin, an evangelical Christian college in Michigan put an ad in the local newspaper protesting President Bush's commencement speech last weekend. The Washington Times cited some of the ad in this article:

    a tidbit from the piece-

    "As Christians, we are called to be peacemakers and to initiate war only as a last resort," the ad will say. "We believe your administration has launched an unjust and unjustified war in Iraq."
    The 130 signatories, which include 20 staff members, work at Calvin College. Founded in 1876 as a school for pastors of the Christian Reformed Church, it now is one of the nation's flagship schools for a Christian liberal-arts education.
    "No single political position should be identified with God's will," says the ad, which also chastises the president for "actions that favor the wealthy of our society and burden the poor."
    Christians are to be characterized by love and gentleness, it adds, but "we believe that your administration has fostered intolerance and divisiveness and has often failed to listen to those with whom it disagrees."

  6. Anonymous12:12 AM

    and the transcript of Bush's speech



  7. "Keep up the condescension, guys, it's a great way to continue to lose national elections."

    I hope that you're referring to the post above mine. If you're referring to mine, I have no apologies. Anyone who believes in "faith healing" is a fucking wacko.

  8. All of that my be true, but it doesn't change the fact that the impetus for much of the ultra-conservative agenda these days are being pushed by religious conservatives (namely Evangelists): the gay-marriage amendment, laws restricting abortion and stem cell research, the filibuster debate, creationism supplanting evolution. I'm sure there are "people of faith" who are against some of Bushes policies, but they're not having any real effect on politics these days that I've noticed.

    "Keep up the condescension, guys, it's a great way to continue to lose national elections. "

    I know history will vindicate us. I don't care how many national elections we lose now, liberals always win out in the end against the conservatives. You can't stop progress just because Jesus says so.

  9. Anonymous9:06 AM

    "You can't stop progress just because Jesus says so"

    Excellent point

  10. Anonymous2:47 PM

    The bums always lose, Geiger, the bums always lose.